Can some one define "Have a content rich website"

[linkupoz]

Hi all,

I see alot of recommendations for a content base approach to raising rank in search engines.

I have always wondered, what would you class as Quality content that would get picked up?

I mean I can go to News.com.au and get as many links as I need that are relevent but is this content?

Do I write article's with 1 or 2 links per page or do I cut sick and cram as much crap as I can on as many pages as possible.

I have started to write a Blog but again by linking to this does that mean I am increasing my content therefore my desirability to google etc? It is articles on starting a business for $100 and just my random thoughts on the internet, business and Life. Very few Links per page if any.
Am i heading in the right direction?
Or do I just build a thousand landing pages for products and Link them all together.
Its not a case of the most Pages wins is it? Surely quality must come into it.

[newbie]

Originally Posted by linkupoz

Hi all,

I see alot of recommendations for a content base approach to raising rank in search engines.

I have always wondered, what would you class as Quality content that would get picked up?

I mean I can go to News.com.au and get as many links as I need that are relevent but is this content?

Do I write article's with 1 or 2 links per page or do I cut sick and cram as much crap as I can on as many pages as possible.

I have started to write a Blog but again by linking to this does that mean I am increasing my content therefore my desirability to google etc? It is articles on starting a business for $100 and just my random thoughts on the internet, business and Life. Very few Links per page if any.
Am i heading in the right direction?
Or do I just build a thousand landing pages for products and Link them all together.
Its not a case of the most Pages wins is it? Surely quality must come into it.

In your main site, you did not worry about the search engines and just focussed on building a site for your readership. I think that is exactly the right approach.

We build pages that are informative for our readers, and the search engines like it as a consequence. It works for us, search engines do not buy shoes.

We know, (or at least we think we know), what the optimal settings are, but many of the sites we build would logically be expected to under-perform because we have not been able to meet those optimal settings. (Mainly because of unrelated coding and data paradigms). However some of these "supposedly crippled" sites perform better than our "optimal" sites.

My personal crazy thought is that the search engines might rely as much on human review as they do on their underlying algorithms. Whatever, we just build them as we see them and do not try to figure out a rhyme or reason for it. We focus on our audience and the quality of our publication and seem to do OK.

[Marlnet]

I'm with Jim on this - the whole seo thing is getting murkier, so just amuse yourself with researching and composing your own content - what is to be will be.

Not to say you can't attach some decent meta keywords and all that, and naturally having some reference to your keywords in the body of your text is still a must, but... and this is what kills me...

A popular search term in which I dabble has a lot of competition - the #1 spot on Google is an affiliate link!

A link!!! Not an affiliate site - just a direct affiliate link that hops straight to the merchant's page - wtf??? (The merchant is below them needless to say)...

[ctopp]

It is all about defining your target audience and the business and relationship objectives you have for those target audiences. Randomly writing and deploying content without an end objective in mind will make the site like the other million out there that are filled with random dribble. Happy to lead you through a process that helps you define all of the above and then allows you to make informed decisions around the content you need and how it is deployed. Let me know.

[Dicey1]

If I had a link to your site I may be able to help better, but in my many years of experience the definition of a site that is "content rich" simply refers to a site that has a considerable amount of content that is at least 80% unique, period.
As a general rule a sites or its pages has a higher probability of ranking for a particular term if it contains quality content.
Though this alone will do nothing for your site rankings unless you have considered the following:

Are you using URL rewrites and controlled internal linking to structure your site properly?
Are you linking from the internal, content rich, relevant pages to other more important pages with keyword anchor and link titles?

It is one thing to have a site that is content rich, but if this content is slapped on without utilising it properly to increase the sites rankings then you are not effectively using your resources.

In its most basic form, each new unique and valuable page that is added to your site bring with it value and reputation for the site as a hole. Utilising this content and funnelling its value to the correct places to increase the site rankings is what is really needed to creat a site that is truly content rich in the SEO world.

[linkupoz]

Originally Posted by Dicey1

, but in my many years of experience the definition of a site that is "content rich" simply refers to a site that has a considerable amount of content that is at least 80% unique, period.
As a general rule a sites or its pages has a higher probability of ranking for a particular term if it contains quality content.

This is my struggle, by the way this is not related to my Adult card Business.

Unique content , to me, means you have to produce it yourself. The second you link to or Post bought/borrowed/stolen content there goes Unique.

The other One I struggle with is Quality. What I think is great you may or worse the search engines may think it is crap.

Can anyone recommend a decent SEO Article or Resource?

Appreciate the offers of help too I'll Pm you.
Cheers Just-In

[newbie]

Originally Posted by linkupoz

This is my struggle, by the way this is not related to my Adult card Business.

Unique content , to me, means you have to produce it yourself. The second you link to or Post bought/borrowed/stolen content there goes Unique.

The other One I struggle with is Quality. What I think is great you may or worse the search engines may think it is crap.

Can anyone recommend a decent SEO Article or Resource?

Appreciate the offers of help too I'll Pm you.
Cheers Just-In

Justin,

Forget link-to, it is all about what you have published as content on your own website.

Unique - not necessarily, sometimes a combination of the same non-unique things set out in a different way makes it unique. Probably better to throw away the term unique and just go for "useful".

Most importantly, you are only going to win for a particular combination of words ONCE on your site, it does not matter whether you have the same combination in 50 different places.

So maybe it is a good idea to loosely adhere to structure but let the over-riding imperative be "usefulness". (not saying that the structure advice in this thread is wrong, it is right).

Criteria is changed and tweaked over time so maybe the random chaos created by that approach will have you well-positioned whichever way the wind blows. Who knows?

[suncoast internet]

Originally Posted by newbie

Justin,

Forget link-to, it is all about what you have published as content on your own website.

Unique - not necessarily, sometimes a combination of the same non-unique things set out in a different way makes it unique. Probably better to throw away the term unique and just go for "useful".

I agree. It's almost impossible to write anything unique about SEO or web design for our blog so I try to go for a mixture of useful and entertaining posts on our blog and keep outbound links to a minimum. Any links on the blog go back into the rest of our site, otherwise the content ends up being like a leaky bucket - leaking visitors elsewhere instead of containing them in your site. Useful content might be tips or 'how tos' about something, eg. I might write something about a useful SEO tool that our clients could try using.

[Happywife]

I consider "content rich" sites to be sites that are full of information. Like others have mentioned, this shouldn't be information that has been copied and pasted from elsewhere on the net. There really isn't much 'unique' in the world these days, but the work/words should be yours the majority of the time to qualify as 'unique content.'

Although the search engines can determine if your content is copied from elsewhere, they can't really determine if the material is "quality." They rely on what your site visitors do to determine the quality of your site. If your visitors don't stay on your pages for any length of time, their movements tell the engines that they aren't finding what they are looking for.

That's rather simplified, I suppose, but that's my understanding of that part of the process.

Instead of preparing your site content with your commissions in mind, prepare it with your visitors' best interests in mind. People are searching for information, solutions, answers, etc. Know your niche and what your visitors are searching for - provide that to them. THAT is quality content, in my opinion.

There are different types of SEO - on page and off page criteria. You need to initially get the on page criteria right and then work on getting some off page SEO (in bound links) for the best results.

Something you may find helpful in learning how to build a site with Quality Content that is very SEO friendly is to read the Action Guide from Sitesell's SiteBuildIt program. If you'd like free access, let me know and I'll give you a link so that you can download it for free.

Hope that helps some.
Blessings,
Angie

[ctopp]

Finally - Focus on the customer and all will be good

[newbie]

Originally Posted by Crow

Ah my faith in the positive possibilities of Affiliate Marketing is back. Thanks!

Crow

Now Crow

I think you might be exposing a little bias here.

I am not denigrating Angie's post for one second, she knows her onions, and in fact, I once tried to buy a couple of her sites.

However, whenever I am not hosing cr*p out the stable door, the only other thing I do here is post advice that I hope is positive and useful but not one of them has been good enough to "restore your faith".

It is not a he/she thing, is it? =))

[newbie]

Originally Posted by Crow

Actually wasnt thinking on you at all when I posted as above. I was applauding the notion as I always have, of seeking to serve others in our endevours. I dont think that I somehow said that you dont or BCL doesnt.

As for your question is it a he/she thing - is that what its about for you? I wouldnt care if Happywife was a man, woman, hermaphridite, yowie or dolphin I care about the intentions in our work. Happywife seems to have something of the same outlook as myself concerning what we do in our work.

Jen

Just teasing Crow

[linkupoz]

Thankyou for the advice, everyone,

Crow and newbie Be nice, this is a serious thread I am struggling with rankings it is ****ting me.

I love the leaky bucket analogy and that links go internal. I have recently changed to this method and it is great once you get the visitor there. I am noticing my average page views increasing.

Really who thought that SEO was this complicated, I managed to knoock off my parent company but a week later they are back.
It seems every time I get a decent ranking it is really hard to hold it!

Is that a different area completely? maintaining a rank?
I see companies that offer to get you number 1 spot in google, but for how long? If I am there for 1 second in theory they have achieved the goal.

Thanks guys, this is really Interesting to me, Hope the rest of you aren't getting bored.

[fintan]

Originally Posted by linkupoz

I have always wondered, what would you class as Quality content that would get picked up?

Picked up by who? Google? Google will index all your content once there is a link to the page

Originally Posted by linkupoz

I mean I can go to News.com.au and get as many links as I need that are relevent but is this content?

Thats links to news.com.au, thats not content

Originally Posted by linkupoz

Do I write article's with 1 or 2 links per page or do I cut sick and cram as much crap as I can on as many pages as possible.

Write an article that a visitor to your site will be interested in reading
Make sure your title and meta tags are unique for the page
Some relevant links within the article to other articles / pages in your site are a good idea
Maybe even reference an expert on an other site too

Originally Posted by linkupoz

I have started to write a Blog but again by linking to this does that mean I am increasing my content therefore my desirability to google etc? It is articles on starting a business for $100 and just my random thoughts on the internet, business and Life. Very few Links per page if any.
Am i heading in the right direction?

Without seeing it, I would say yes you are on the right direction

Originally Posted by linkupoz

Or do I just build a thousand landing pages for products and Link them all together.
Its not a case of the most Pages wins is it? Surely quality must come into it.

Its not "most pages win" its about unique content, relevant title & meta descriptions, good internal linking and links from relevant external sites.

[linkupoz]

I have been doing work on content and my blog is up and running.
Thanks you to happywife for her excellent information, i have had my head in it for days.

Now I just need to work out who's theory is correct on getting the most out of the algorithyms as far as keyword frequency etc etc.

I am actually that excited I am going to run a few trials over the next 6 months and see what happens.
I'll just buy traffic until then if I have too. LOL

Thanks all.

Just-In