My affiliate studies (-: Have some question on SEO tricks

[Danielist18]

Hello All!
I have been reading up on SEO search optimization methods 2 hours over the night and its pretty overwhelming the amount of different strategies for posting, content and back links from other websites I guess in some sort of partnership which I'm not too excited about. I am now looking for short cuts as I don't have the time nor energy with already having a full time job, the wife, the kids etc…So, I want it quick and now and would love to hear more about this Black Hat SEO tricks, what is it and how can I use it. Where can I go to make it happen and get traffic now for my affiliate websites?
All the best - Daniel.

P.S:
It's unbelievable how mach info i found on the net...but as mach that i fill in info to my brain i got more more confused.

[snooks]

I am now looking for short cuts

There is none

So, I want it quick and now and would love to hear more about this Black Hat SEO tricks

Then your site is doomed to failure.....when caught, you will be de-Indexed.

Do yourself a favour, learn, be patient and do the right thing. Anything less than this will cause only stress and failure.

Cheers

[Danielist18]

Looks like it not "zbeng and that's it!"...

I will remember well what you told me here...i dont want to do mistake's that i can avoid from...

Thank you...

[jonathancharot]

Originally Posted by Danielist18

Hello All!
I have been reading up on SEO search optimization methods 2 hours over the night and its pretty overwhelming the amount of different strategies for posting, content and back links from other websites I guess in some sort of partnership which I'm not too excited about. I am now looking for short cuts as I don't have the time nor energy with already having a full time job, the wife, the kids etc…So, I want it quick and now and would love to hear more about this Black Hat SEO tricks, what is it and how can I use it. Where can I go to make it happen and get traffic now for my affiliate websites?
All the best - Daniel.

P.S:
It's unbelievable how mach info i found on the net...but as mach that i fill in info to my brain i got more more confused.

hi

Black hat SEO tricks is just like spamming. Although it can make you in the top result. After search engine like google finds out what you did they will penalize you. Either your site will be deleted from there search engine list or your rank will be bring down to the lowest

[ikonic]

here is the format for blackhatting

level 1 - blackhat sites - all the tricks go here (you don't make money from these sites)
level 2 - greyhat sites - receive links from level 1 sites (add ebay/amazon type programs here).
level 3 - money site - recieve links from level 2 sites (this is the actual main site you want to improve in the serps)

[newbie]

Originally Posted by ikonic

here is the format for blackhatting

level 1 - blackhat sites - all the tricks go here (you don't make money from these sites)
level 2 - greyhat sites - receive links from level 1 sites (add ebay/amazon type programs here).
level 3 - money site - recieve links from level 2 sites (this is the actual main site you want to improve in the serps)

Who are you and what have you done with Tim?

First. There is no way that you can prove that the theory is valid and/or that the proponents of the theory are, (or are not), just delusional w*****s.

Second. This is an affiliate forum. People come here for guidance. It is inappropriate for you to make a post like that, administrator or not.

More than a couple of my acquaintances thought they were smart blackhats but only the ethical publishers are still viable these days, apart from the scum that switched to adware.

Blackhats are not smart, blackhats are just dumb losers, ultimately.

[ikonic]

Originally Posted by newbie

First. There is no way that you can prove that the theory is valid and/or that the proponents of the theory are, (or are not), just delusional w*****s.

There is no way you can disprove it. I know AM doing 4-5 figures a month with this structure. I think it is important to note, that the level 1 and 2 sites do not host affiliate offers and therefore the "industry" is not negatively affected by it. It is simple a method for creating backlinks with relevant PR to increase a sites position in the SERPS. If people who claim to be blackhat are stupid enough to try and pull this crap with their money sites then they deserved to be caught. I have worked in the web sec industry for nearly 5 years now (9 if you count the personal time i spent) and this stuff has been around for ever.

I mean this is no different to mininets, splogs, networks or the hundred of other techniques used to push up the SERP via the generation of new backlinks. Its the implementation of the technique that differs and progresses.

Originally Posted by newbie

Second. This is an affiliate forum. People come here for guidance. It is inappropriate for you to make a post like that, administrator or not.

Whom determines what is approriate? I am entitled to my own opinion and other AM should be aware of what is occuring within the industry (outside of Australia). In fact if you look at any other affiliate forum on the web this stuff is discussed continually.

btw: if anyone else is interested in what is happening in terms of new techniques then check our this site Blue Hat SEO-Advanced SEO Tactics (its one of my favorite) .

[Moldydish]

Originally Posted by ikonic

here is the format for blackhatting

level 1 - blackhat sites - all the tricks go here (you don't make money from these sites)
level 2 - greyhat sites - receive links from level 1 sites (add ebay/amazon type programs here).
level 3 - money site - recieve links from level 2 sites (this is the actual main site you want to improve in the serps)

Originally Posted by newbie

Who are you and what have you done with Tim?

First. There is no way that you can prove that the theory is valid and/or that the proponents of the theory are, (or are not), just delusional w*****s.

Second. This is an affiliate forum. People come here for guidance. It is inappropriate for you to make a post like that, administrator or not.

More than a couple of my acquaintances thought they were smart blackhats but only the ethical publishers are still viable these days, apart from the scum that switched to adware.

Blackhats are not smart, blackhats are just dumb losers, ultimately.

Originally Posted by ikonic;11881.....
Whom determines what is approriate? I am entitled to my own opinion and other AM should be aware of what is occuring within the industry (outside of Australia). In fact if you look at any other affiliate forum on the web this stuff is discussed continually.

btw: if anyone else is interested in what is happening in terms of new techniques then check our this site [U

Blue Hat SEO-Advanced SEO Tactics[/U] (its one of my favorite) .

Newbie, Ikonic hasnt changed by posting as he has above - just exactly who he is and what he is about. This rapport is dripping with irony for those who have been on this forum more than a couple of months!

[newbie]

Originally Posted by ikonic

There is no way you can disprove it. I know AM doing 4-5 figures a month with this structure. I think it is important to note, that the level 1 and 2 sites do not host affiliate offers and therefore the "industry" is not negatively affected by it. It is simple a method for creating backlinks with relevant PR to increase a sites position in the SERPS. If people who claim to be blackhat are stupid enough to try and pull this crap with their money sites then they deserved to be caught. I have worked in the web sec industry for nearly 5 years now (9 if you count the personal time i spent) and this stuff has been around for ever.

I mean this is no different to mininets, splogs, networks or the hundred of other techniques used to push up the SERP via the generation of new backlinks. Its the implementation of the technique that differs and progresses.


Whom determines what is approriate? I am entitled to my own opinion and other AM should be aware of what is occuring within the industry (outside of Australia). In fact if you look at any other affiliate forum on the web this stuff is discussed continually.

btw: if anyone else is interested in what is happening in terms of new techniques then check our this site Blue Hat SEO-Advanced SEO Tactics (its one of my favorite) .

Cheats existed before the internet and internet cheats existed before Google but it is a different ball game now.

Of course you are entitled to your own opinion just as you are entitled to go bungy-jumping without a rope if you want to, but I could not count the number of supposed "smarties" who do not bother trying to publish content any more because they got caught.

In a similar vein, you might remember that you alerted me to a mininet some time ago. They are doing nothing blackhat, just faking links. Let's see what happens to them in the not too distant future, and, after that, come back and tell me what you think.

You ask, "Whom determines what is appropriate?" Google determines what is appropriate.

My only interest in this is that new affiliates will make decisions based on what they read here and your post could cause some of them to crash and burn if they are silly enough to take any notice of it.

I haven't read your "bluehat" forum but I am guessing it is best-practice seo design principles, nothing more than can be read more clearly from the source, Google Guidelines.

The only path to long-term profit is the straight and narrow.

UPDATE: I checked out your bluehat link Tim because, apart from this instance, I normally respect your opinion.

Mate, that site is just garbage, nonsense and hocus pocus.

I do not know who Eli is but I suspect it was conceived as a practical joke.

They would have had a laugh for a while, reading some of those user comments made me giggle too, but it seems like nobody goes there any more.

Here are their Google Trends traffic stats - why not email him and ask him how all of his plans are working out for him these days?

[bcl]

just wondering if this site and its many clones are black, grey, white, blue or yellow?

http://www.borderjustice.com/

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

just wondering if this site and its many clones are black, grey, white, blue or yellow?

Announcing www.borderjustice.com- Listed on Shopsafe Australia by Ozbizweb

Ha.

I thought you were asleep.

I have seen that site around.

Unfortunately, it is a specifically nominated and sanctioned practice, much preferred to those keyword traps. If in doubt, read up on it, they even have videos for those of you with old tired eyes.

[bcl]

Originally Posted by newbie

Ha.

I thought you were asleep.

I have seen that site around.

Unfortunately, it is a specifically nominated and sanctioned practice, much preferred to those keyword traps. If in doubt, read up on it, they even have videos for those of you with old tired eyes.

Not sure what's so unfortunate about it.

This technique works for you then, does it?

[ikonic]

Originally Posted by newbie

UPDATE: I checked out your bluehat link Tim because, apart from this instance, I normally respect your opinion.

Mate, that site is just garbage, nonsense and hocus pocus.

I do not know who Eli is but I suspect it was conceived as a practical joke.

They would have had a laugh for a while, reading some of those user comments made me giggle too, but it seems like nobody goes there any more.

Eli is a mod over a Wicked Fire and probably one of most respected bloggers on the internets when it comes to "blue" hat seo techniques (mixture of black, white and grey seo).

In regards to google trends I am pretty sure he doesn't care. The site is a personal blog and therefore it is not designed, coded or maintained to be popular in the SERP's. Its more of a 'here is tip' type site and if you are lucky enough to find it and read then you will learn a lot. I mean his article of dynamically recording and inserting keywords into the copy is sheer brillance. An organic and self evolving site that updates and modifies its copy to match terms related to the target segment is something that you don't read about on most blogs (let alone even think about).

[newbie]

Originally Posted by ikonic

Eli is a mod over a Wicked Fire and probably one of most respected bloggers on the internets when it comes to "blue" hat seo techniques (mixture of black, white and grey seo).

In regards to google trends I am pretty sure he doesn't care. The site is a personal blog and therefore it is not designed, coded or maintained to be popular in the SERP's. Its more of a 'here is tip' type site and if you are lucky enough to find it and read then you will learn a lot. I mean his article of dynamically recording and inserting keywords into the copy is sheer brillance. An organic and self evolving site that updates and modifies its copy to match terms related to the target segment is something that you don't read about on most blogs (let alone even think about).

It is laughable, mate.

It is so easy to be ranked for an original thought. Only fools waste valuable brain-time on geegaws when they could so easily be legitimately ranked for the right reason.

The ideas (on the site that I read) are the kind that pop into everybody's head from time to time but are immediately turfed out because they are stupid.

Obviously, that sort of nonsense is not available be read on most blogs.

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

Not sure what's so unfortunate about it.

This technique works for you then, does it?

Nice try but not even close and definitely no cigar.

They are exactly what they appear to be.

You will not find those links listed in backlinks.

It might have something to do with the <META NAME="ROBOTS" CONTENT="NOINDEX, FOLLOW"> tag.