Brand Bidding Pt 2

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

Not at all, because confusing definitions and illogical arguments are what you are basing your false accusations on.



Quite simple really - although hardly any of your business. We are in the process of dropping all merchants unless their programs are clean and well-managed. The office warehouse links were removed from all our pages where they were receiving promotion yesterday, and hence there is no longer any need for the reference page about them - so it was deleted. As you seem to have nothing better to do than haunt my website, you'll see quite a few other merchants removed over the next few days.

I imagine the broken links will disappear from google before long - google is a frequent visitor


Only that the two of you are both singing from the same songsheet.

I have never been accused of making a false accusation before, that has further added to my confusion.

Please clarify this for me after looking again at the afore-mentioned Google cached page:

BCL Shopping - Office Warehouse shop review

The first thing I ask myself when I see a page like this is "What value does this add to the internet?"

The next thing that stands out to me, for example, is that I can see a link titled simply "Dell".

This "Dell" link does not lead to a landing page that is category on the office warehouse website at all. It has been created using the AffDirectURL redirect.

It is not a static page. It utilises the search function on the Office Warehouse site to produce a results page of products some of which are "Dell-compatible" but none of which are "Dell" products. It is a "made-up" "page".

That is the source of my confusion. Why was the "Dell" link created?

What value do you think this "made-up" "Dell" page has added to the internet?

[fintan]

Originally Posted by newbie

I think you missed the point. Google does not index the tags, ONLY the content WITHIN them.

Of course all the content within them is important.

*plink*

That would be the penny dropping

[bcl]

Jim, you appear to have set yourself up as some amateur sleuth, judge and jury.

It is all becoming rather tiresome. By the end of the month, we won't be sharing the same space, or using the same network so my activities will be totally irrelevant to you and vice versa.

I answer to the merchants I promote and not to some self-appointed campaigner with a grudge.

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

Jim, you appear to have set yourself up as some amateur sleuth, judge and jury.

It is all becoming rather tiresome. By the end of the month, we won't be sharing the same space, or using the same network so my activities will be totally irrelevant to you and vice versa.

I answer to the merchants I promote and not to some self-appointed campaigner with a grudge.

I do not have a grudge with you BCL, I wish you the very best, always have, always will. There is nothing you could do that would concern me.

I do not even think there is anything wrong with the brandbidding that you do.

My opinions contra to yours have only ever been in defence of PPC brandbidding. Since I do not PPC bid at all, and stand to lose much more than you from PPC brandbidders, my conscience is crystal clear.

[bcl]

Originally Posted by newbie

I do not have a grudge with you BCL, I wish you the very best, always have, always will. There is nothing you could do that would concern me.

I do not even think there is anything wrong with the brandbidding that you do.

My opinions contra to yours have only ever been in defence of PPC brandbidding. Since I do not PPC bid at all, and stand to lose much more than you from PPC brandbidders, my conscience is crystal clear.

Perhaps not a grudge, just a desperate need to stop me encouraging merchants to look a bit closer at how some of their commissions are claimed - just in case they move past the brandbidders and look at what you and some other affiliates on your favoured network are doing.

If there were AMs in Australia and new merchants were not just dropped in the deep end to find out the hard way, perhaps you'd have other messengers to take potshots at.

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

Perhaps not a grudge, just a desperate need to stop me encouraging merchants to look a bit closer at how some of their commissions are claimed - just in case they move past the brandbidders and look at what you and some other affiliates on your favoured network are doing.

If there were AMs in Australia and new merchants were not just dropped in the deep end to find out the hard way, perhaps you'd have other messengers to take potshots at.

You know I have always been in favour of the full and complete exchange of information and a laissez-faire environment because it produces the best outcomes for ALL parties.

Attacking PPC brandbidders as if that were a bad thing, while one continued to conduct extensive organic search brandbidding seemed ridiculous to me from day one (and let me not forget to say that I told you so).

The "idea" was never going to be defensible but the greatest regret is the damage the campaign caused to affiliate marketing in general.

[bcl]

Originally Posted by newbie

You know I have always been in favour of the full and complete exchange of information and a laissez-faire environment because it produces the best outcomes for ALL parties.

Attacking PPC brandbidders as if that were a bad thing, while one continued to conduct extensive organic search brandbidding seemed ridiculous to me from day one (and let me not forget to say that I told you so).

The "idea" was never going to be defensible but the greatest regret is the damage the campaign caused to affiliate marketing in general.

The only damage being done to affiliate marketing is done by affiliates who use tricks to get commission, and by the networks that facilitate it. It puts good merchants off the whole idea which is a pity because it is an excellent business model if people do the right thing by each other.

Now I must get back to work - search for clix, hit delete, search...
Let me know if I've missed some, won't you.

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

Now I must get back to work - search for clix, hit delete, search...

I congratulate you. It was the only honourable course you could take, I have said that for a year.

You are a fundamentally good person so I have never been able to understand how the deceptive propaganda could be reconciled against the acceptance of the network's benefits.

[bcl]

Originally Posted by newbie

I congratulate you. It was the only honourable course you could take, I have said that for a year.

You are a fundamentally good person so I have never been able to understand how the deceptive propaganda could be reconciled against the acceptance of the network's benefits.

The only thing that has stopped me is consideration for merchants and the honest affiliates out there.

Now merchants will have to make the choice of switching or running on more than one network and dealing with duplicate tracking if they want to stay on my sites.

If it means some merchants are not accessible to other affiliates, they can thank you and your firefly mate for that.

Ever wondered if your strings are being pulled? You might wake up in a couple of years and realise that I was right all along. I won't expect an apology - I know you don't do apologies.

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

The only thing that has stopped me is consideration for merchants and the honest affiliates out there.

Now merchants will have to make the choice of switching or running on more than one network and dealing with duplicate tracking if they want to stay on my sites.

If it means some merchants are not accessible to other affiliates, they can thank you and your firefly mate for that.

Ever wondered if your strings are being pulled? You might wake up in a couple of years and realise that I was right all along. I won't expect an apology - I know you don't do apologies.

I doubt that the "news" is a surprise to anyone and it is a long-awaited vindication for me. I had already declared that you would do the right thing - a long, long time ago.

[bcl]

Originally Posted by newbie

I doubt that the "news" is a surprise to anyone and it is a long-awaited vindication for me. I had already declared that you would do the right thing - a long, long time ago.

I've been doing the right thing all along.

Vindicated? Are saying that your intention with all this carry-on over the past 18 months has been to get me to stop using clixgalore? Are you sure you read the instructions on the packet properly?

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

I've been doing the right thing all along.

Vindicated? Are saying that your intention with all this carry-on over the past 18 months has been to get me to stop using clixgalore? Are you sure you read the instructions on the packet properly?

I have never been able to understand why the charade was carried on for so long. More than a year ago I said you would do the right thing and remove yourself because it was the only honourable thing you could do. I am very glad that you have eventually proved me right and it does not matter how long it took.

[bcl]

Originally Posted by newbie

I have never been able to understand why the charade was carried on for so long. More than a year ago I said you would do the right thing and remove yourself because it was the only honourable thing you could do. I am very glad that you have eventually proved me right and it does not matter how long it took.

Another misquote? You are the only one who makes claims about "honourable" things to do.

If the network wanted me to go, all they had to do was ask. Ever wondered why they didn't?

[newbie]

Originally Posted by bcl

Another misquote? You are the only one who makes claims about "honourable" things to do.

If the network wanted me to go, all they had to do was ask. Ever wondered why they didn't?

I guess it is because honour is a personal thing - nobody can make you be "honourable".

[Marlnet]

Originally Posted by newbie

I guess it is because honour is a personal thing - nobody can make you be "honourable".

Just ask Kirsty...