Redirecting questions

[Marlnet]

Originally Posted by Moldydish

OK. There is some complexity in the business set up and this complexity is in part a reason for my need to have a wide range of domain names to utilise. Without going too far into detail, I have a main business which covers a group of my services under the business name and then there are also individual service streams (still connected to the main business),one of which is being funded externally. My decisions re use of domains must work in with this situation. The background in any case is not straight forward but rest assured - I am asking all my questions for good purpose.

None of this is exactly groundbreaking stuff Jen...

Having semi-autonomous domains for product/service lines that link back to a parent site is par for the course and unlikely to cause you any ill-effect regardless of how complex the rationale...

Just buy the domain names and chill...

[Moldydish]

Originally Posted by Marlnet

None of this is exactly groundbreaking stuff Jen...

Having semi-autonomous domains for product/service lines that link back to a parent site is par for the course and unlikely to cause you any ill-effect regardless of how complex the rationale...

Just buy the domain names and chill...

I know it is completely non ground breaking and thats why Id hoped any one could answer my questions about redirection penalties.

I was in one of those unchilled moods and the concerns re arose. Such questions (that is my original question for this thread) are asked in various forums so its not unusual for new comers to want to know this stuff.

Any rate - now the evening is approaching I am commencing chill.

[ikonic]

It depends on how the redirects are done.

If you are doing a 301 redirect then you are telling the search engine the site has permanatly moved to a new location and in most instances, the major search engines will simply index the content at the new site and drop the the old site from the "visible" SERP's.

If you are doing a 302 redirect then you are telling the search engine/browser the site has move temporarily to a new location and this create numerous problems as the search engine can have trouble indexing the correct url... DO NOT USE 302.

Therefore, providing you are doing a 301 redirect then you should be fine.

However, if you are thinking about url forwarding then this is generally done via a 302 which is bad

So, in summation, doing a 301 redirect on other domains is ok (providing its not an pre-existing domain with a decent PR and site being redirected doesn't have the same or similar content)

[Moldydish]

Originally Posted by ikonic

It depends on how the redirects are done.

If you are doing a 301 redirect then you are telling the search engine the site has permanatly moved to a new location and in most instances, the major search engines will simply index the content at the new site and drop the the old site from the "visible" SERP's.

If you are doing a 302 redirect then you are telling the search engine/browser the site has move temporarily to a new location and this create numerous problems as the search engine can have trouble indexing the correct url... DO NOT USE 302.

Therefore, providing you are doing a 301 redirect then you should be fine.

However, if you are thinking about url forwarding then this is generally done via a 302 which is bad

So, in summation, doing a 301 redirect on other domains is ok (providing its not an pre-existing domain with a decent PR and site being redirected doesn't have the same or similar content)

Thankyou! Is there another form of automatic redirect so that the B site doesnt drop from the visible SERP's? To be direct, is there another way to put an automatic redirect on a parked site (a B site lets say) which has only some meta tags and an excellent domain name (in that it exactly matches the most popular search terms for the service being offered) - without the B site dropping from the SERP's?

Jen

[ikonic]

Originally Posted by Moldydish

Thankyou! Is there another form of automatic redirect so that the B site doesnt drop from the visible SERP's? To be direct, is there another way to put an automatic redirect on a parked site (a B site lets say) which has only some meta tags and an excellent domain name (in that it exactly matches the most popular search terms for the service being offered) - without the B site dropping from the SERP's?
Jen

There is, but then you go to the blackhat side of things doing double meta refreshes etc, spider tricking, fake content etc and its simply not worth it if you are building the site for long term.

Instead, you could use madlib scripts to create content for B which is simlar to A... or you use B as a landing page with links all over it pointing to A.

[Moldydish]

Originally Posted by ikonic

There is, but then you go to the blackhat side of things doing double meta refreshes etc, spider tricking, fake content etc and its simply not worth it if you are building the site for long term.

Instead, you could use madlib scripts to create content for B which is simlar to A... or you use B as a landing page with links all over it pointing to A.

Thankyou for all that info Ikonic - it was what I wished to learn about. While the question is about basic stuff , that is where I am at and where other newcomers to the whole thing are at, and all I was looking for was some answers to this basic stuff. So thankyou again for reading the actual questions and providing direct, non judgemental answers.

[toucan]

Some pretty solid advice on this thread already but thought I would add my 20 cents worth.

Personally I think you need to forget about the "redirecting" issue and take Ikonic's final suggestion. I.e:

Register all the domain names you can.
Analyse which keywords are going to drive you the most (profitable) traffic.
Build some unique "landing pages" at the domains with those keywords (with some content as opposed to simple holding pages).
Link (don't redirect) those pages to your main business site.

This will build backlinks to your main site, whilst the landing pages should appear in the SERPs for your given search term (provided they are niche enough and you tick the right SEO boxes).

[Moldydish]

Originally Posted by toucan

Some pretty solid advice on this thread already but thought I would add my 20 cents worth.

Personally I think you need to forget about the "redirecting" issue and take Ikonic's final suggestion. I.e:

Register all the domain names you can.
Analyse which keywords are going to drive you the most (profitable) traffic.
Build some unique "landing pages" at the domains with those keywords (with some content as opposed to simple holding pages).
Link (don't redirect) those pages to your main business site.

This will build backlinks to your main site, whilst the landing pages should appear in the SERPs for your given search term (provided they are niche enough and you tick the right SEO boxes).

Hi Toucan,

Yes I decided Ikonic's landing page option with links and not redirects was the option for me.

As I really didnt want to spend any time on these non main domains at present I had been looking for all the possibilities where I could leave them rest and just use them as stepping stones unseen. But, I believe it wouldnt take much to set them up as landing pages and put links to the main site there.

I actually thought on my little nature walkabout this afternoon that I would have these as sites as construction pages, coming soon stuff and then a little spiel telling the visitor to visit such and such for their requirements etc. I might even be able to do them as "coming soon" free one pagers with links but not sure. Im not wanting to stuff people about in their searches and the reality is that these sites will be good sites for searchers concerning the subject matter later on.

I do indeed have some quite unique content but its stuff that lays a sort of identification with my concepts in the service Im offering and it needs time to be just right.

Thanks for your help and input - will look into your ideas.

Jen