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30-07-2008, 07:11 PM
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| | Are home based online businesses a reliable thing on which I can depend for earning? Oh No!, My Post Has Been Deleted
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30-07-2008, 08:28 PM
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| | Hi Watson,
Sorry to hear of your plight. Honestly, online businesses take time to generate income and time probably isn't on your side. I don't like to sound negative but you may want to look at a more traditional means of income in the short term.
Good luck, hope you bounce back.
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30-07-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Watson Hello! Friends I have just retired three months back and do not receive any pension because I was working in a private firm. Now days I am facing certain financial crisis which are really harassing me mentally. Is there any online business which I can do by sitting at home? Please help me. | Help you Watson...?
Ahh...
No.
Geez, this must be the second time this week I've written such a horrible thing - oh I know, I am sooo heartless...
Can anyone enlighten me - and I have literally been around the world so many times I am officially dizzy - but please, just why do people spend their time fishing/phishing in this way - do people PM back them and offer money, is that it? Or do they just have no life whatsoever?
Is there a petition I can sign to have them executed? | 
31-07-2008, 10:18 AM
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| | Sitting on your arse, no...
Business from home, certainly.
You can import and wholesale products that aren't already on the market, for a start.
Or products that ARE on the market, but only from one supplier... Undercut them and retailers will love you. You can also sell directly from your own website, but unless you know how to set it up and get it to rank well, it's a sucker's game.
You can also consider setting up a Ponzi or "reverse funnel" system, as the people on the top of those things always make it rich, thanks to the hundreds of poor stupid saps on the 5th and 6th tiers.
It's worth noting that these are illegal, and will land you in federal-pound-me-in-the-arse prison... and that's AFTER you've been mercilessly beaten by someone that's found out your original address. | 
31-07-2008, 01:55 PM
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31-07-2008, 02:10 PM
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| | Oh, what a surprise. Another first time poster gives a golden solution.
Phew!! I was really worried about that for a minute. | 
31-07-2008, 02:57 PM
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| | ..... and here's me taking it seriously ........ last time | 
31-07-2008, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Ronalds Yes there are many things which you can do by just sitting at home to earn your livelihood. There are Home Based Business System which can help you earn a good income and make you financially strong. You just have to be aware of the right ones for you and be willing to devote time so that you can get the knowledge better that will help you to be successful in the business. | Now... before we start - do you prefer to called Ronalds or Watson? "By using the same simple turnkey Home Based Business System that I have. You too can achieve true Financial Freedom within 6 months, and totally eradicate those life stresses associated with mortgages, credit cards and personal loans!" Well I must say - that sounds just too good to be true... Oh... what was that? It is too good to be true...! Geez, well you had me going there for a second... | 
15-09-2008, 07:54 PM
| | | Hmm in 6 months you say WOW sign me up
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Originally Posted by Marlnet Now... before we start - do you prefer to called Ronalds or Watson? "By using the same simple turnkey Home Based Business System that I have. You too can achieve true Financial Freedom within 6 months, and totally eradicate those life stresses associated with mortgages, credit cards and personal loans!" Well I must say - that sounds just too good to be true... Oh... what was that? It is too good to be true...! Geez, well you had me going there for a second... | | 
01-11-2008, 11:36 AM
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| | Yeah, 6 months is generally the best possible outcome. As someone who has successfully built profitable businesses in a verity of sectors, and both traditional and MLM, I would have to say that 3-5 years is a more viable outcome.
6 months is possible, but its very rare to find someone who has the skills and motivations to do it.
I should probably write an article about it on my BDM site at http://adam.orrey.com.au/ | 
01-11-2008, 02:31 PM
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| | HarveyJ said it better than I ever could so all I can do is repeat it.
Personally, I wish it were possible to send all MLM schemers to "federal-pound-me-in-the-arse prison".
In case anybody reading this misunderstands my meaning, MLM does not work/cannot work/will not work for anyone but the promoters because there is no end-buyer.
People that spout meaningless time-frames do so out of habit. They are used to convincing suckers that their failure is their fault. "Give it time" is merely another method to keep fools on the hook just a little bit longer. Quote:
Originally Posted by HarveyJ Are home based online businesses a reliable thing on which I can depend for earning?
Sitting on your arse, no...
Business from home, certainly.
You can import and wholesale products that aren't already on the market, for a start.
Or products that ARE on the market, but only from one supplier... Undercut them and retailers will love you. You can also sell directly from your own website, but unless you know how to set it up and get it to rank well, it's a sucker's game.
You can also consider setting up a Ponzi or "reverse funnel" system, as the people on the top of those things always make it rich, thanks to the hundreds of poor stupid saps on the 5th and 6th tiers.
It's worth noting that these are illegal, and will land you in federal-pound-me-in-the-arse prison... and that's AFTER you've been mercilessly beaten by someone that's found out your original address. |
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01-11-2008, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by newbie In case anybody reading this misunderstands my meaning, MLM does not work/cannot work/will not work for anyone but the promoters because there is no end-buyer. | Any good MLM remunerates its distributors in a similar fashion as you would a get as a contract sales person except the emphasis is on trails instead of upfront commissions. Most people get upset at MLMs due to being convinced (usually by a new and over eager distributor) that the system their adopting does not require you to sell. I'm sorry, but sales is an essential skill and activity for any successful business, MLM or not.
No sales, no monies. Its not rocket science.
Most people don't 'get' sales to begin with, so im going to leave it there unless another sales professional has the energy to explain.
Its interesting to note, that in the business world, the people that give you the most trouble when pitching your product, are those with little money and limited business acumen. In the world of business (MLM or not) you're looking for clients that are "greedy not needy"
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01-11-2008, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Orrey Any good MLM remunerates its distributors in a similar fashion as you would a get as a contract sales person except the emphasis is on trails instead of upfront commissions. Most people get upset at MLMs due to being convinced that the system their adopting does not require you to sell. I'm sorry, but sales is an essential skill for any successful business person, MLM or not.
No sales, no monies. Its not rocket science.
Most people dont 'get' sales to begin with, so im going to leave it there unless another sales professional has the energy to explain. | This is an affiliate marketing forum.
It is not a MLM forum.
It is not a snake-oil forum.
It is not a forum for so-called "sales professionals".
Please take your BS somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by Orrey Its interesting to note, that in the business world, the people that give you the most trouble when pitching your product, are those with little money and limited business acumen. In the world of business (MLM or not) you're looking for clients that are "greedy not needy" | I particularly liked the edited addition to your post. I am sure it goes down a treat with the starry-eyed loons.
You have got the whole song-book, haven't you?
You would be better off peddling your wares somewhere else where your talents might be appreciated. There are no suckers here - we ate them all.
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01-11-2008, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by newbie This is an affiliate marketing forum.
It is not a MLM forum.
It is not a snake-oil forum.
It is not a forum for so-called "sales professionals".
Please take your BS somewhere else.
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I particularly liked the edited addition to your post. I am sure it goes down a treat with the starry-eyed loons.
You have got the whole song-book, haven't you?
You would be better off peddling your wares somewhere else where your talents might be appreciated. There are no suckers here - we ate them all. | Are you seriously trying to say that generating sales through affiliate marketing is not apart of the sales process?
Its becoming clear that you're either a uni student, or unemployed, or both. Go out there and get a real job working in sales and marketing for 6-12 months before you try taking a position of authority on this matter.
The entire point of an affiliate referral is to generate leads to make sales. Most affiliate programs will not pay you unless your lead converts to a sale.
You can throw around insults all you want, its not going to help your argument.
Like it or not, Affiliate programs are by nature apart of sales and marketing.
This wiki article will help you understand affiliate sales and marketing a bit better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_marketing
I hope it helps you understand what you're trying to do here, you wont make any money through affiliate programs until you do.
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01-11-2008, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Orrey Are you seriously trying to say that generating sales through affiliate marketing is not apart of the sales process? the entire point of an affiliate referral is to generate leads to make sales. Most affiliate programs will not pay you unless your lead converts to a sale.
You can throw around insults all you want, its not going to help your argument.
Like it or not, Affiliate programs are by nature apart of sales and marketing.
This wiki article will help you understand affiliate sales and marketing a bit better http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affiliate_marketing
I hope it helps you understand what you're trying to do here a bit better. | Thank you for the enlightenment.
I misunderstood. I thought you were a MLM shyster. I do not like con-men and, unfortunately, reacted badly.
I am glad you share our collective aversion to MLM and look forward to reading your posts. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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